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my_daroga ([personal profile] my_daroga) wrote2008-05-10 07:53 am
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Mama don't take my Kodachrome...

It has come to my attention that it may be prudent to make the switch from my 1985 Minolta X-700 SLR film camera to a semi-pro digital format. I've been holding on for some time now, because I love my camera. But film and developing costs, the time it takes to get developing done, and the lack of control I have over said developing are getting harder to deal with. I can't "compete" with people whose shots are instantly available, so some of it's probably jealousy. Yesterday I did a photo shoot of a dog I'm to do a portrait for, and was forced to use my SLR because the little digital one doesn't shoot fast enough--but this means that I have to go get three rolls of film developed to get the one shot I want to use.

I should confess that some of what's been holding me back is pure snobbery. For instance, for me to get a nice macro shot, it means screwing magnifying lenses onto my camera and taking numerous shots to get something in focus--with that magnification, breathing can throw it off. I assume that people using a macro setting on a digital SLR camera don't have that problem. I'm assuming there's autofocus involved. Therefore, when I do get something, I feel proud that it was "all me" or whatever. But who's to know that anyway, when there are so few people using film cameras anymore? No, it's not a pretty reason, but it is a factor. Another is, well, I love the way my photos look. Will they look like that when I switch?

I don't know. I still have mixed feelings about it. Which is why I bring it to you. How do you feel about your digital camera? Did you make a switch from a film camera you really liked? What was involved in that decision? And what do you have to say about the cameras that are out there now?

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[identity profile] phantoms-siren.livejournal.com 2008-05-10 05:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Personally I hate film cameras and pretty much didn't take photos at all before I got my digital, I hated the idea of actually going some where and developing totally unknown photos (usually out of focus from a forgotten holiday five years before) and then having to pay for the crap that came out. This was partially due to the fact that my eyesight makes looking through the hole thing difficult (I'm still struggling to learn to do that with my D40). I lurve digital. And not just cos it has the happy view screen and focuses for you. In fact auto focus is a bit of a bitch and when you suddenly don't have it (the high end lense on my D40 is manual) its a major shock to the system. Mostly I love the fact that you can see if the shot is crap and then delete it and you never ever have to pay for prints you don't want. I'm cheap. Most of my photos live in the computer and will stay there. I also like the fact that you don't have those stupid negative things so you never lose your originals (assuming your data doesn't get fucked up moving harddrives *pout*).

As for cameras I love my D40 but must advise you to not even think about getting one. Nikon cleverly designed it not to function with all but the most expensive lenses since it doesn't have any focusing stuff in the camera itself, its all in the lense, so a good lense is either manual (ok for stationary stuff, bad for anything moving) or insanely expensive (like the same price as the camera). I dunno about any other cameras though all the camera guys I've spoken too tell me that the bigger and longer the lense the better the camera, but I think thats just men being men (they always have to compare the length of something).
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[identity profile] phantoms-siren.livejournal.com 2008-05-12 05:22 pm (UTC)(link)
heh I 'grew up' with film cameras, my dad had a few years of being into photography.

I would suggest getting lenses (or a camera) that has the option to work manually or auto since there will always been times when auto is useful like in very dark conditions or with movement (like the dog photos you were trying to shoot).

I have different standards of what makes a good quality photograph and a lot of the aspects of film that people consider to be good (grain etc) are the reasons I dislike film. Whilst I recognise the artistic merits its not something I would ever strive for myself. Or if I did I'd photoshop it in :p
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[identity profile] phantoms-siren.livejournal.com 2008-05-12 05:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm a PreRaphaelite person- I love unnaturally sharp clear images. And I like candy :p

[identity profile] kryss-labryn.livejournal.com 2008-06-13 06:50 am (UTC)(link)
This guy (http://www.chrisharris.com/gallery/index.html) is a client of ours. All his shots are taken with a digital camera. It's very nice; actually, he's got one of five in Canada. It takes lenses and everything. It cost a lot.

But there are other, more affordable digital cameras out there that will still take proper lenses etc. You MIGHT even be able to find one that will take your old film camera lenses (you could start with Nikkon digitals, for example, if you've got Nikkon lenses), which would put you ahead of the game there too.

So far as the auto-focus goes, you can usually turn it off, especially on a better-than-basic model. We have digital cameras ourselves, and I would never go back to film. From ease of development to ease of storage, transmission, and editing, to the versatility of the machine, there's no substitute.

Do your research, be prepared to pay a few hundred (up to a thousand for an EXCELLENT one) dollars to get a decent one that will do what you want, and realize how quickly it'll pay for itself once you stop having to pay for film and development.

And check out that link! Have a look at his photos; you'd never know they weren't shot on (very high quality) film. Good hunting! :-)

[identity profile] desertcreature.livejournal.com 2008-05-11 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
I have to confess to begin with that I am not a great photographer. However, my dad has done all of the photographs for my sisters' various ball teams for years. He always used film cameras but recently switched to a digital camera and loves it.

I really like the idea of digital cameras, but mine ran through batteries so fast, I hardly ever used it. I've gone back to using my trusty old pentax film camera lately.

I'd suggest borrowing someone else's and seeing how it works for you if you can.

Good luck!

[identity profile] ignite.livejournal.com 2008-05-11 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
the main reason i like digital over film: i can take 400 shots and find the 10 (or 100) that are the best with zero cost involved.

[identity profile] ignite.livejournal.com 2008-05-11 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
also since you want a dslr this probably isn't possible but another favorite thing about my camera. rechargable double a batteries. they last forever but i have a 2nd set to swap in. the rechargables last maybe 4x as long as regular batteries too.

[identity profile] tinyholidays.livejournal.com 2008-05-12 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
I heart and miss film cameras. But my digital is so crazily convenient. If I were doing anything artsy, though, I'd be using a nice film camera. I spent much of 2000-2002 glued to a Canon Rebel 2000.

Use what works for you, yo.

To me, what rocks about film is the mystery. With digital, you can decide instantly to keep or ditch a pic. There are no real surprises. With film, there's always that anticipation, that revelation of seeing what you captured. Then again, it sucks when you don't get what you wanted. IT'S SO HARD THIS BATTLE. SIGH.

[identity profile] kryss-labryn.livejournal.com 2008-06-13 06:57 am (UTC)(link)
Hubby's cell phone (Erikson) actually takes ten shots for a split second or so on either side of the actual "moment". That allows him to find that exact moment when our young son actually has his eyes open and his head up, or whatever. He can keep or discard the rest. I love it because I HATE that delay (sometimes upwards of 3 seconds, it seems) you sometimes get when you go to snap a digital pic. Might be an option to keep an eye open for when shopping around. It's pretty cool.

[identity profile] carmarthen.livejournal.com 2008-05-17 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
You can use manual focus with a digital camera (and sometimes have to).

I just got to the point where I need an SLR to do what I want to do, rather than just the manual settings on my point-and-shoot. I think the best film work looks better than the best digital, but if you're not shooting large format or developing your own black-and-whites, it's hard to tell (I looooooove developing film, but I don't have a way to do it now--I only did with scanning electron micrographs in a class once). I appreciate the savings, and I appreciate being able to take more pictures and try more experiments without worrying about wasting money.

[identity profile] carmarthen.livejournal.com 2008-05-17 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, yeah--the other thing that helped for me with digital is thinking of PhotoShop (or other programs) as the darkroom. You can digitally produce most of the effects you can with film. In some ways, I think digital offers more control, since most photographers don't develop their own film (particularly color). But there's definitely a learning curve.

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