Fandom, shipping, and memes!

[my_daroga]

The "and" is misleading, I know. It's really all one thing. Borrowed from lafemmedarla.

I undertake this meme with the following clarifications: There's not really any ship I won't read, if it comes recommended or is written by someone I like. I'm much more attached to quality than specific pairings. That said, I'll ship Spike with anyone. Likewise The Phantom, as I feel there's plenty of territory left to mine.

Six ships you like:
01. Erik/Persian
02. Spike/Buffy
03. Kirk/Spock
04. Doctor/Turlough
05. Logan/Rogue (movieverse)
06. Mulder/Scully

Three ships you used to like, but don't anymore:
07. Erik/Christine
08. Spike/Willow
09. Holmes/Russell

Three ships in your various fandoms that you can't stand:
10. Buffy/Angel
11. Spock/Christine Chapel
12. Jack Harkness/anyone

Two ships you're curious about but haven't actually started shipping:
13. Christine/Meg
14. Spike/Dawn


1. Why do you dislike #11 so much?

Spock/Christine Chapel. I just can't stand Majel Barrett. I mean, it's not her fault or anything, but it always seemed like they were trying to make her more attractive and act younger than she looked. I probably would have been okay with her if her interest in Spock hadn't seemed so forced. I do like the story about how she was cut out of the original cast on studio orders and then re-inserted with a blonde wig, but it doesn't mean I can stand the idea of her with Spock. I haven't read any of this fic, but it seems abundant. Maybe I should.

2. Who is someone you know that ships #13?

Christine/Meg. Other than me, in an embryonic sort of way? I don't know if anyone does. But I don't know if anyone would object, either.


3. What would be your ideal scenario for couple #3 (even if the show isn't on the air anymore)?

Kirk/Spock. I think that the show itself was shippy enough to be ideal; we got just enough of their passion for each other to keep it going. I mean, Spock's a Vulcan, and I don't want any OOC spilling-over of feelings. We know they care for each other, and while I enjoy reading fic where they show this sexually, I want it to be pretty much set within the parameters of the show.


4. Which is your favorite episode for #1? Try to pick just one, if you can

Erik/Persian. Oh. I guess I forgot this was a tv show thing. Um... it's all good, but I like the bit in the book where Erik's beating his heels on the boat and taunting the Persian and the Persian's all torn between being afraid and being amused.


5. How long have you been following couple #6?

Mulder/Scully. Since the beginning of Season 5, when I first started watching the show. Though my focus in the relationship quickly moved from Mulder to Scully, as I realized she was more interesting.


6. What's the story with #8? What made you stop liking them/caring?

Spike/Willow. Nothing, really; I think my interest was sparked by some good, hot fic, and I just got tired of it. Canonically, it doesn't work very well for me, so there wasn't any subtext for me to invest in.


7. Which ship do you prefer - #2 or #4?

Spike/Buffy vs. Doctor/Turlough. Spike/Buffy all the way, I'm afraid. It's just way too hot and angsty.


8. You have the power to make one ship non existent. Choose from #10 or #12.

Buffy/Angel vs. Jack Harkness/anyone. Definitely Jack. B/A is a totally valid ship, and probably if I didn't harbor so much irrational dislike of David Boreanaz, I'd like it a lot better. Then again, Jack being supremely annoying to me is probably also an actor thing. But anyway, the fact that Jack is omnisexual and yet I don't want him to sex anyone pisses me off.


9. What interests you about #14?

Spike/Dawn? The wrongness, plain and simple. Their relationship is, at times, fabulous. They're adorable in a little sister/big bad brother sort of way. Which is why they probably *shouldn't* get together, but also why it's irresistably attractive to me. But I've never really found GREAT Spike/Dawn fic.

10. When did you stop liking #7

I don't dislike Erik/Christine. It's not a moratorium on E/C fic. But I was definitely a rabid, fangirly E/C shipper as a teen. I "left" fandom for awhile, and came back precisely because when I started thinking about it again, I realized E/C in a fluffy, happily-ever-after sense was ridiculous. I'm still up for realistic E/C fic, just not for the pairing's own sake.

11. Did your waning interest in #9 kill your interest in the show?

Holmes/Russell. Well it's a series of books, and yeah, I guess it did. I found them more compelling as mentor/student with a weird sexual edge. Once married, Russell in particular became less interesting to me.


12. What's a song that reminds you of #5?

Logan/Rogue. "Can't Touch This"?


13. Which of these ships do you love the most?

Reading (and porn) habits-wise, it's Spike/Buffy. Intellectually, Erik/Persian.


14. Which do you dislike the most?

Spock/Christine Chapel


15. If you could have any of these two pairings double date, who would it be?

Mulder/Scully and Kirk/Spock. These are the only two I could actually see getting on and having a really fun time.


16. Have #2 kissed yet? Elaborate if you'd like.

Spike/Buffy? I think the show elaborated that enough.


17. Did #4 have a happy ending? If the show hasn't ended yet, do you think a happy ending is likely?

Doctor/Turlough. Show hasn't precisely ended, but the Doctor'll never have a happy-ending-with-Companion thing.


18. What would make you start shipping #13?

Christine/Meg. Getting off my ass and writing it.


19. If only one could happen, which would you prefer - #2 or #6?

Spike/Buffy wins over Mulder/Scully. Canonically, S/B was dealt with a lot better than M/S. I don't really need Mulder and Scully to get together; their UST was better than anything they could have done on the show.


20. You have the power to decide the fate of #10. What happens to them?

Exactly what already did: Angel moves away and moves on, Buffy gets with Spike. I'd alter the latter so that Spike didn't make that ridiculous stand of not telling her he was alive.

Comments

[tkp.livejournal.com]

Buffy/Angel 4eva omg!!!!!!!1

Yeah, that's pretty much all I got to say about that. ;o)

[my_daroga]

This is a comment either on my inability to say anything thought-provoking, or your inability to see around Angel's huge forehead.

[tkp.livejournal.com]

huge forehead! Huge forehead!

[my_daroga]

Thank you. At least you're able to tear yourself away long enough to salve my ego.

[tkp.livejournal.com]

Huge forehead!...huge forehead?...huge...?

Also. I would totally 'ship Christine/Meg. Esp. movieverse. How come no one makes Meg and Empress? WHY?

PoM is the suckiest suck that ever did suck suck, if suck could suck, this is how much suck it'd suck.

[tkp.livejournal.com]

I meant, Meg *an* Empress

[my_daroga]

CAVEMAN BROW. My final words on the subject.

Yes, Christine/Meg movieverse are totally canon. I just can't see her choosing either of those guys, and that chick is HOT. I need to write this; I mean, more than I did in that one ficlet.

Here's what I have to say about POM:

[tkp.livejournal.com]

Awesome! Except it needs a footnote:

*All except for Aliens, The Empire Strikes Back, and Terminator 2.

[my_daroga]

True. I wonder how long that footnote would be, actually? Because there are quite a few good sequels. I liked Spider-Man 2 LOADS better than 1.

[tkp.livejournal.com]

I think Spiderman 2 is better. Large part due to Molina, who I'm going to marry, btw. But they don't merit mention, imo, because I don't actually like either one that much.

[my_daroga]

You'd better hurry with marrying Molina.

And you know what? I *really* liked S-M 2. I went in with very little interest (did my brother make me go, or something?) because of 1. But 2 turned out to be *everything* I want, and hardly ever get, from a superhero movie. Because I'm always more interested in their "normal" lives than their heroism. I don't care how strong they are or how many people they save, I want to see how they deal with a divided life. And for me, that's what 2 was all about.

[tkp.livejournal.com]

I don't care how strong they are or how many people they save, I want to see how they deal with a divided life.

Me too, but I tend to be less interested in "normal" lives like Clark Kent's and Peter Parker's. That is, their normal lives really are normal. Bruce Wayne's "normal" life on the other hand is Super Fucked Up, so it interests me more. I have thoughts on this but I'm not going to ramble.

One of my major problems with movie!Peter's RL is I HATE Kirsten Dunst with the passion of a thousand fiery suns. Like you hate Claire Danes or something. She just GETS ON MY NERVES WITH HER GODDAMN GIRLY VOICE AND LAZY EYS.

[my_daroga]

I'm with you on Bruce Wayne, and I would *never* was to inhibit any ramblings on that subject you might want to pour forth. On the other hand, it is simultaneously interesting to me when "normal" people are forced to dovetail their fucked up with their normal lives.

Oh, hey. Like Buffy.

It's not like Peter's life is *easy*.

I'm sorry you hate Kirsten Dunst. That would, definitely, alter one's perception. (Although I'm quite capable of watching Claire Danes if I have to, and actually like Shopgirl.)

[tkp.livejournal.com]

Yeah, but I just didn't feel like going off on the topic. Sometimes I can talk for hours even when I myself am not interested. I'm like a talkaholic or something.

On the other hand, it is simultaneously interesting to me when "normal" people are forced to dovetail their fucked up with their normal lives.

Oh, hey. Like Buffy.

Buffy is special. She wins at everything.

I'm capable of watching Dunst; I just don't like her. I'm glad you liked Shopgirl. That was quite an unusual movie, imo.

[my_daroga]

Yeah, but I just didn't feel like going off on the topic.

Some other time.

Re: Shopgirl

Yeah, it was. I liked its treatment of depression, and the whole structure of how he's playing himself in a movie he wrote about a real situation where he doesn't come off as terribly sympathetic, *and* with art by the actual woman it happened with, fascinates me.

[tkp.livejournal.com]

He's playing himself? Oh, ick, that makes me like it a whole lot less. But the art bit is cool.

[my_daroga]

Well the novella he wrote is based on real experiences. So, it's a fictional account of himself and this girl. That's why I find it so compelling... the built-in meta.

[tkp.livejournal.com]

I didn't know it was his own real experiences.

[my_daroga]

I don't know how much of it's real, keep in mind.

[ghostwritten2.livejournal.com]

I just got done reading PoM and I want my reading time back. IT IS DREADFUL!

[my_daroga]

But we all need to read it so when can whine together, right?

[inlaterdays.livejournal.com]

Exactly!

...Oops, I'm Other Me again.

[my_daroga]

I'm not confused.

But seriously, if this sequel thing happens, WE ARE ALL GOING TOGETHER.

[inlaterdays.livejournal.com]

EMOTIONAL STRENGTH IN NUMBERS

...and we will need it.

[my_daroga]

AMEN.

Plus, best reunion/meetup ever. We will all go get drunk after. Or before. Whatever. And do things we will be very embarrassed about when we get back home.

[tkp.livejournal.com]

I thought it was happening?

I want to go with you, omg!

I'm writing my mini-version of PoM now so I can send you back your copy. It is so fun to mock!

[my_daroga]

Haha, I can't wait to see it. And please, take your time. I'm just now getting the stench out of the shelving unit.

It *is* happening in the sense that ALW has announced. But he's announced things before that never happened, y'know?

So I think it's totally appropriate that we all meet to mark the occassion. There will be plenty of time before then to save up money and all that.

[tkp.livejournal.com]

I just finished it too. Gag me with a spoon. Or possibly a tractor. Christ.

[ghostwritten2.livejournal.com]

Jack/Scully/Mulder!

...I am now running away very quickly.

(I am also not serious)

[my_daroga]

Well, I'm not denying that fanonically, Jack would go for it.

But I don't want to see it.

[ghostwritten2.livejournal.com]

Me either, because Mulder/Scully are so VERY OTP.

[my_daroga]

Yeah... I mean, I can't even really deal with Skinner or Krycek, no matter how hot, unless it's a 3some. They can get with M/S, but never with M or S alone.

[inlaterdays.livejournal.com]

I want Krycek to have an unaknowledged crush on Mulder and I want Skinner for meeee. >:D

(As well as Mulder & Scully)

HJAGJLSGHDF I SAW "HUMBUG" LAST NIGHT IT WAS SO SO AWESOME

[my_daroga]

OMG YAY!

Humbug rules! There's so much to squee over. Oh Darren Morgan!!! I love you. There's little Twin Peaks dude, and eating of crickets, and Mulder's Pose(tm)... yum!

[inlaterdays.livejournal.com]

Scully and the bug! And The Enigma and his one line! AND MULDER MACKING ON THE LITTLE GUY; I NEARLY PEED MY PANTS XD

And yesss - the pose by the trailer.

"We were exhuming your...potato."

"We found out you used to be a dog-faced boy."
"Look how skinny I was then!"

[my_daroga]

I NEED MY TAPES NOW. But I'm at work. Dammit.

OMG wait, when I get home I'm watching Doctor Who, so XF will have to wait. Sorry. I need to see Martha before I'm totally spoiled.

[scarletsherlock.livejournal.com]

I most definitely agree with #11. I really enjoyed BEEK, MREG, and OJER, and I did like MOOR and GAME, but JUST sucked and the rest have been snores to me.

[my_daroga]

I actually haven't caught up yet, and I don't necessarily think it's *because* they're married, but she very much soured on me as a character.

My initial attraction to her was so Mary Sue related (same hair, same book-reading-while-walking-habits, same age--15--when I read BEEK) that the *lack* of that probably hindered my reading of the later books, too.

[vervassal.livejournal.com]

Long shot, but I was wondering if you recalled a Meg/Christine fic called 'Hands' (or something like)-- it was really good, and I'd love to read it again...

[my_daroga]

Ooh, no. I'd love to know, too. What avenues have you tried to find it?

[vervassal.livejournal.com]

FF.net, where I originally stumbled across it.

[my_daroga]

Hmm. I'll keep my eyes open.

[dracschick.livejournal.com]

I'm not a Spike/Buffy fan either.

PS--I enjoy writing E/C. More with them as vampires though. Tis fun:)

[my_daroga]

Really? I love Spike/Buffy. I just really don't like Angel very much.

I know you like E/C, and there's nothing wrong with that. It's just not where my interest lies right now.

[glamtron.livejournal.com]

youre flashing me back to my crazy xfiles fandom days. i was a huge noromo but possibly because i was a young teenager with bad mary sue complexes.

i need to get the box sets and reevaluate as i cannot trust any beliefs i had more than 2 years old.

[my_daroga]

Haha. I think I was kind of in between; I loved the UST, but didn't want them to get together on the show. I was fine with reading about it, though.

Yeah, I haven't gone back and watched them. I don't know if I want to, if the "magic" would be gone, you know?