Results from unpopular fandom meme!

[my_daroga]

There's still time to get your question in!

I should have realized that I have no idea what the popular opinions are about these things.

for androidlovesong:
Doctor Who
*I adore Martha but don't hate Rose and don't understand why we all can't just get along.
*I hate Torchwood because I can't stand Barrowman's acting/delivery and because it's "adult" in the most juvenile way possible and also because no one's actions in S1 (which is all I've seen so far) are motivated by anything. This is not the good crack, kids. (Though Sarah Jane Adventures totally is!)
*I really dislike the Eighth Doctor, though I love Paul McGann in other things.
*I don't know if this is unpopular, but Lis Sladen looks better now than she did before.
*I don't watch enough Old Who anymore and am mostly working off vague memories of my childhood watching experiences. This makes me unpopular to me.


for deathmask_revel
Phantom of the Opera
*Julian Sands is hot.
*Erik/Christine should explore the deep problems of the characters and their relationship.
*ALW is a hack.
*There should be more crack!fic.
*Movie!fic is totally okay if the author deals with the characters rationally and not like the movie did (in my opinion).
*Gaston Leroux was not a genius. He wrote a book that tapped into something, which makes it interesting and important. It is not a "work of art." It's pretty awesome, though. Those things aren't mutually exclusive.

for metalmyersjason:
Phantom of the Opera: Erik, Raoul, Daroga, Christine
This is a difficult category because there are so many (at least 2) camps of fandom. Most of my opinons would offend one or the other but not both.

*Erik: Would make a terrible husband and is wrong when he says that "if you loved me, I'd be as gentle as a lamb." It worked to let them go, but in the long run he's still who he is--and Christine would have learned that, had she stayed.
*Raoul: Not a fop, because the Raoul I know is brave, serious, not an inordinately snappy dresser and, most importantly, he is young. I think everything that might make Raoul unpopular could be fixed by a little maturity, which is why I don't understand Raoul bashing. We were all 20/1 once, weren't we? How rational were you?
*The Daroga: Has an uneasy relationship with his foreignness. He has rejected some aspects of his former life, but keeps the peaked cap. My daroga shaves, both as a sign of his uncertainty about his heritage and to differentiate himself from the prevailing styles of the time. His fascination with Erik contains both contempt and an unacknowledged envy that Erik has reached beyond society to do as he pleases.
*Christine: Is blonde unless there's a good reason for her not to be. She was not served well by her upbringing in Daddy Daae's fantasy world, but the story of Phantom is as much a story of her growing up as it is about anything else.


Phantom of the Paradise: Swan, Phoenix, Winslow Leach, The Juicy Fruits, Beef
I'm not sure what the prevailing opinions here are.
*Phoenix is not such an innocent; or at least, her easy defeat by Swan implies weakness of character.
*Winslow's Phantom persona is everything he wished he could be as a gawky, put upon teenager.
*Harold is my favorite Juicy Fruit ("Super Like You").
*Beef was just doing his job.


Hellboy
I have never had any exposure to this, frankly because of the name, which I find very silly.


for stefanie_bean:
Phantom of the Opera: Philippe de Chagny
Leroux goes to great pains to make us feel Philippe is a typical (almost admirable?) man of the world and takes good care of Raoul, but in his actions and expressions he seems a little rough. I'm not sure he understands Raoul at all, or knows how to help him. Philippe is one of the densest (as in, least imaginative and most wrong-headed) characters in the book, and as written (or sketched, really) I care about him very little.

That's not really an unpopular opinion, since no one expresses an opinion about Philippe. You want one?

I like Philippe from the Charles Dance miniseries. I like what they do with him. AND HIS HAIR.


for agentdanak:
X-Files: Scully
Is it "unpopular" that she's my favorite of the two? Or maybe that I don't put "ist" after one of their names? She's the one I relate to, despite the fact that when I started watching I was sort of All About Mulder's pain and hotness. Oh, but I have no interest in her as a mother, or her desire for motherhood, which may be because I have none but I also think was unecessary to the show and what I wanted from Scully's development.

And I don't care whether she dyes her hair or not.

Comments

[phantoms-siren.livejournal.com]

S2.... hmm i never watched S1, I only watched S2 for the poodle reference and hung around for the cute chubby welsh guy... Theres one good episode involving a surprise pregnancy and a ruined wedding... thats all I remember. So no probably no point, you could watch that episode as a standalone TBH.

What makes Paul McGann effete? Seriously I don't see it... other than the hair and the frankly gorgeous costume, which was supposed to be based on the wild west anyway. He had him a mototrbike! But then I was 13 when it came out and was in love with the McGanns as a whole (omg the eyes) and frankly its in my genetic makeup to want to jump any guy in velvets and a cravat.

Hellboy, movie definitely. I love the comics but I think the movie is a better stronger introduction to the characters. Watch it when you're in a good mood and want a slightly silly movie. Also watch it all the way to the end of the credits :)

[my_daroga]

What makes Paul McGann effete?

His look, to me, says "I am trying to be delicate and pretty." Obviously I am in the minority because I have never met anyone who shares this opinion. Also, I happen to like effete/delicate/pretty/Bryonic. To me, Eight came off as Trying Too Hard and it turned me off. I can't really explain it better than that. I'm not saying it's rational. Also, I watched it for the first time last year.

tkp and I are trying to decide whether to keep watching Torchwood, since we hated S1, which is why I asked. I like the Welsh accents though, because it is unusual in stuff that I get to see.

[phantoms-siren.livejournal.com]

I think if Tennant were in that costume I'd agree, but IMO McGann is solidly built enough to take that kind of costume, hes not a delicate build IMO. As for the pretty, well he can't help being naturally gorgeous, he's a McGann, its like being a young Balwin :p Tennant is a pretty boy he's just playing it down by looking like a 40 year old Sheffield Uni student :p

At least McGabnn isn't wearing a decorative vegetable!

Personally I've always thought Eccleston was trying too hard to appear tough with the buzzcut and leathers, but then I always think hes trying to hard no matter what he's in. Except Jackanory. That was his kind of level.... You probably won't know what that is.

I wish I'd not wasted my time watching S2. I'll watch the finally because I want to see who if anyone) dies and see Spike cause chaos. I *have* to, his character has my surname :p

[my_daroga]

Maybe it was the hair. But I should watch it again, now that I've seen him in something else. Though I hated pretty much everything else about that movie so I don't know if it will help at all.

I thought Eccleston was spot on in 28 Days Later, but I had no idea who he was then.

I not-so-secretly love Peter Davison.

[phantoms-siren.livejournal.com]

I saw McGann in a Poirot episode playing a Doctor the other week and giggled all the way though. Oh, you should look up the Mrs Bradley Mysteries series, both Tennant and Peter Davidson are in it, and they're utterly brilliant. I'm pretty sure you;d like the series as a whole.

He was in 28 Days Later? I've only half seen that so I probably wasn't paying attention...

I know, thats why I said that :p He was awesome in All Creatures though...

[my_daroga]

He was in 28 Days Later? I've only half seen that so I probably wasn't paying attention...

Man, I love that movie. He's in the second half, though. He's good.