Quote of the day: Phantom as Star Trek

[my_daroga]

Paris Opera was a living thing, full of a mad collection of people performing and doing their thing. It was somewhat like the starship Enterprise—completely self-sufficient.
-John Mathieson, cinematographer for the 2004 Phantom of the Opera

So my challenge to you: who's who? Any crew, but I prefer TOS and TNG because I know them better. And DS9 (but we already know Bashir is the Persian). Basically I don't know Voyager and Enterprise. And whatever POTO canon you can shoehorn 'em into.

Personally, I want Kirk to play everything.

Comments

[seraphcelene]

LOL!! This is awesome. I wish that I were more familiar with POTO!

Maybe ... Kes (from Voyager) as Christine? or Maybe if we want to think really outside of the box, Data.

In that scenario, Raoul would be Tasha Yar and the Phantom/Erik would be Lor.

I don't know anything about any of the other characters, but I suppose that Dr. Soong would be Madame Giry. I have no clue who would be the Persian because I don't remember that character from the movie. (Sorry!! I know that my slip is showing!)

lol!!! I really wish that I did know more about the movie.

[tkp.livejournal.com]

The Persian's really only in the book. Though the movie with Lon Chaney comes closest.

Heeeee. Data!Christine. I said she should be 7 of 9. Hot blonde, can't think for herself...yeah, that's it!

[seraphcelene]

Aha!!

I totally second guessed myself on Kes because I thought that maybe she had a little too much spunk. Seven of Nine would work. With Janeway as her Raoul or maybe the Doctor. AND the Borg Queen as the Phantom? Maybe I'm trying to make everyone too related ...

[my_daroga]

Ooh, a Data/Lor tragedy? Nice. Poor Tasha.

As tkp said, the Persian's in the book. And he's in the Chaney film (see creepy icon) under a different name. They decided at the last minute to cut the backstory, so they renamed his Ledoux but he kept his funny hat.

[dangerousdame.livejournal.com]

Uhura is Christine, what with the singing. I guess that makes the Squire of Gothos Erik...

[my_daroga]

Haha. Since she was singing to Spock that one time, does that make him Raoul? Or Kirk, even if the Aliens Made Them Kiss?

[deathmask-revel.livejournal.com]

Yes, I agree. Kirk would make a dashing Christine...

[tkp.livejournal.com]

ftw!

[my_daroga]

This was what I was going to write, but then I realized he should just be everyone and I couldn't decide. His awesomeness knows no bounds.

[tkp.livejournal.com]

Erik - Q
Christine - Picard
Beverly - Raoul
Wesley - haha PoM!son
Riker - Meg
Data - Persian
Worf - ???

Now for the ALW/TOS version

Spock - Andre
McCoy - Firmin
Kirk - Carlotta

Voyager:

7 of 9 (she's Borg) - Christine

[my_daroga]

Erik - Q
Christine - Picard
Beverly - Raoul
Wesley - haha PoM!son
Riker - Meg
Data - Persian
Worf - ???

Hee! Q! And Wesley is perfect. Riker!Meg is just scary, but at least he's got that trombone thing down. Data can do that shifty-eye thing.

Now for the ALW/TOS version

Spock - Andre
McCoy - Firmin
Kirk - Carlotta

You are so mean to them. ILU. WHO IS PIANGI? YEOMAN RAND?

7 of 9 (she's Borg) - Christine

I know what she looks like and stuff, and a lot of the characters' names, just not much about personality. For some Christines, Borg is about right.

[phantoms-siren.livejournal.com]

Surely Kirk would be Carlotta what with his boundless acting (pause) talent!!

Only Wesley is annoying enough to be Meg...

Chekov would be innocent enough to be Raoul.

I think only Voyager has characters gullable enough to be Christine, Kes or 7 of 9. Though I do like the idea of Data as Christine....

[my_daroga]

Data!Christine would be awesome, because he's smart but naive in enough ways you could make it work.

And I will near no slurs on Shatner's acting talent. I think he's quite good in the early tv series. I am completely serious. Then again, I have come to the conclusion that one person's charm is another person's ham, so it's all a matter of taste. Still, I'd love to see him as Carlotta!

[phantoms-siren.livejournal.com]

Also he's fully functional and anatomically correct (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qU4B8nYKH5E) (watch it... the only way it could be better is if Brent was singing it himself) so he'd keep the slash fans happy.

I'm not bashing his talent! I love Shatner in all his over the top Shakespearean glory. I was just quoting Calculon! (could have been worse, could have been Zap Branigan: The Velour Fog). I like that Shatner can laugh at himself and I have enough drama school training to know he would have been awesome on stage, it just translates to the screen as over the top cheese. Besides he gave the world the phrases "I don't say 'sabotage'. YOU say 'sabotage', I say 'saboTAGE'" and "don't tell me how to act, it sickens me" without which the world would be a sadder place.

Oh and this-

[phantoms-siren.livejournal.com]

which I now see you have in your office.

[my_daroga]

Oh, I am glad, then. I wasn't actually upset or anything, and I think he'd make a great Carlotta. I just don't think he's *bad*--just special.

And LOL to the song. I hadn't heard it before. Awesome.

And yes, it's at my desk. I don't like to have to explain to people I'm a geek.

[phantoms-siren.livejournal.com]

we used to have Captain Kirk on the fridge, made me happy.

Yes very.... special :D I hope the new Kirk can live up to his awesomeness

[my_daroga]

I think he's on our fridge, too.

I hope the new Kirk can live up to his awesomeness

I don't see any way this can possible happen, especially since it looks like they cast for looks. Not that they didn't cast Shatner for looks, too, but I think they'd have done better going with someone less perfect-looking and more attitude-appropriate. But we'll see, eh?

[lafemmedarla]

As long as we don't get William Shatner performing Music of the Night....

[my_daroga]

FTW!!

To be fair, his album of original material (Has Been) is really good, IMO...

[lafemmedarla]

I love his bizarre rendition of "The Real Slim Shady" and I wish I had that Futurama ep.

Now I'm gonna have to check that album :P

[my_daroga]

When he's not covering something, and when Ben Folds is doing the producing/music side, it becomes something other than "talking cover songs." It's more like performance or something. IMO. And it's funny and sad, by turns.

[phantoms-siren.livejournal.com]

Original material? I thought Common People was on Has Been... can't fire up iTunes to check. I should get the rest of that album, if only to watch Dave twitch :p

[my_daroga]

It is, but I skip that one every time. The rest are original, and I genuinely love it.

[phantoms-siren.livejournal.com]

Awww I like that song, they always play it in the Sheffield comedy club before a gig. I wonder what Jarvis thinks of it....

[my_daroga]

Yeah, I love that song too, which is why I skip Shatner's version... :P

No, it's not that I hate it. I just don't care to listen to it much.

[realcdaae.livejournal.com]

I'd pay to hear that. Srsly.

[my_daroga]

Actually, Hart's lyrics can ONLY be improved by speaking them.

Oh wait, 2004 film, anyone?

[lafemmedarla]

Damn. Now I want a Shatner/Butler duet.

This cold medication is making think weirder than usual.

Original Series Cast

[stefanie-bean.livejournal.com]

Good Kirk = Raoul

Bad Kirk = Philippe (we have to split them up to get the proper effect. And weren't Raoul and Philippe as characters combined somewhat in the Charles Dance POTO version?)

Spock = Persian (rational on the outside, all emotional and gooey on the inside. Besides, there's always room for Raoul/Persian slash too ... LOL)

Uhuru = Christine (she sings, and she thinks Kirk/Raoul is hot - but she'd like a little more Bad Kirk in the mix.)

Khan = Erik. Remember him, Mr. "Better to rule in hell than serve in heaven?" And I could see Khan being attracted to Uhuru/Christine; she would give him a run for his money.

Janet Rand = Sorelli (she thinks Bad Kirk/Philippe is hot)

Nurse Chapel = Mme. Giry (she's kind of a fussypants)

Marla McGyver = Meg (sorry, Meg, no Khan/Erik for you this go-around)

Heh, that was fun!

Re: Original Series Cast

[stefanie-bean.livejournal.com]

I should have clarified - this is a hypothetical movie based on Leroux ...

Re: Original Series Cast

[my_daroga]

Oh man, you're awesome! That's a great list, and you actually thought about it. ;)

Re: Original Series Cast

[phantoms-siren.livejournal.com]

Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!

I like the split of the good Kirk and the bad Kirk :)

Re: Original Series Cast

[my_daroga]

Me too.

[inlaterdays.livejournal.com]

I keep seeing Yeoman Rand as Christine for some reason. I think just the Young and Blonde thing.

[my_daroga]

Yeah, that's a factor. But I'm not sure who the others would be.

[hope-24.livejournal.com]

Here from stefanie_bean's journal. :)

I love Bashir as the Persian looks-wise, but I like the idea of the worldly-wise Garak as the Persian - then I can make the boyish Bashir Raoul and have some Persian/Raoul (Garak/Bashir) slash.

I like the idea of Odo, with his weird face and lovely voice and unrequited love vibe, as Erik.

TOS? I don't know, as long as Spock gets to be the Persian.

[my_daroga]

Welcome!

I love Bashir as the Persian looks-wise, but I like the idea of the worldly-wise Garak as the Persian - then I can make the boyish Bashir Raoul and have some Persian/Raoul (Garak/Bashir) slash.

Yeah. I think Siddig is a great Persian *now*, but back then I could definitely see Raoul.

I like the idea of Odo, with his weird face and lovely voice and unrequited love vibe, as Erik.

Can see that, too! Who's Christine?

[hope-24.livejournal.com]

He is the perfect Persian now. Definitely improved with age :) Riker as Philippe, too, I think - quite the ladies man. Plus, I can see Philippe maybe visiting a brothel or two, and Riker did spend a lot of time in the Holodeck - which is essentially a big electronic brothel.

Christine is quite tough, I think. Is there anyone vacillating and disingenuous enough in the entire Trek universe to fill the shoes? ;)

[my_daroga]

Oh, Riker as Philippe is perfect, yes.

I think that Christine is difficult, unless you make Christine a more decisive character--and change the story a little. Oh, maybe Deanna, whom I dislike but is very sensitive.

[imp-o-light.livejournal.com]

Wow, it's hard to outdo the suggestions already made: Q or Khan as Erik, Chekov as Raoul (can't get more callow than that), Data or Spock as the Persian, Nurse Chapel as Mme. Giry (perfect!). Somehow, though, I can also picture Dr. McCoy as the Persian (chiding Erik for his addictions).

Now pardon my delving into particular episodes for the rest: I'd look to "Requiem for Methuselah" to provide the romantic triangle of Flint/Rayna/Kirk for Erik/Christine/Raoul. Remember--Flint, the near-immortal genius who had been da Vinci, Brahms, and countless others? The one who created Rayna, the perfect android, out of his own loneliness? Recall that Flint permitted Rayna to get to know Kirk in hopes of arousing her emotions--and then Flint got uncontrollably, violently jealous. Something about that older man's voyeurism for the young pair seems very POTO. At the end, Rayna short-circuits and dies from her conflicting love for the older man (father/mentor) and the younger man (lover). Kirk's closing line was something like: "An old and foolish man... and a young and foolish man.... We put on a pretty poor show, didn't we?" An alternate POTO could have come to the same ending.

I put in my vote for Elaan of Troyius as Carlotta. I'd have lots of hortas in the cellars making tunnels for Erik. Erik would have the shape-changing salt monster do some of his murders. For the opera managers, I'd choose two characters from "The Trouble with Tribbles": space trader Cyrano Jones and uptight administrator Nilz Barris. And I'd have to find some role for Alexander the dwarf--wait, wasn't there a dwarf opera singer in the POTO movie?

But actually, the creepiest Erik I can come up with would be a forty-years-older Charlie X, having gone into long seclusion with alien-given powers, now more brilliant and far more bitter. Can't you picture him kidnapping some young thing who reminds him of Janice Rand? And he wouldn't just be thwacking her on the behind...

Gosh, I could waste much too much time on this topic!

[my_daroga]

Somehow, though, I can also picture Dr. McCoy as the Persian (chiding Erik for his addictions).

Oh my goodness yes.

I'd look to "Requiem for Methuselah" to provide the romantic triangle of Flint/Rayna/Kirk for Erik/Christine/Raoul...

That's kind of brilliant. I like it. And I'm impressed. I love the hortas!

But actually, the creepiest Erik I can come up with would be a forty-years-older Charlie X, having gone into long seclusion with alien-given powers, now more brilliant and far more bitter.

This would be amazing. Thanks for your thoughts!!

[stefanie-bean.livejournal.com]

That is awesome - because young Charlie X really *is* very "Erik in training." That's actually a great fanfic plot-bunny idea, too.

How about Harcourt Fenton Mudd as one of the managers? He's already the impresario type.

Excellent call with the "Requiem for Methusaleh" story, with the focus on the "old man/young woman" vs. "young man rival." Rayna short-circuiting and dying does have an echo at the end of the 2004 movie - only movie!Christine's death is longer and slower. That's probably where the "Crazy Christine" trope comes from, where she's made mad by her internal conflicts over the two men.